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First let me say that I sympathize with your situation. I cannot however, agree with your sentiments. I'm sorry, but I feel compelled to do a bit of a 'rant'."? I will no doubt get flak for it, but I know there are people that have made the time to learn these programs, that will understand and agree with"?what I am saying. It is not my intention to pick on this particular person, but rather these same"?sentiments expressed all too often, by many agents.

You should think long and hard before you subject yourself to monthly charges to gain access to your own information with"?Top Producer. The problem is that when you discover there is something better, you'll have a tough time getting your data returned in a form you can use.

Better"?? Or cheaper in the long run"?? The grass is always greener on the other side."? To assume that something else is better, without using it for a while, is"?often disappointing. I don't believe there is any one CRM tool that is 'best' or 'better'."? Which one is 'best'"?depends upon your level of"?comfort with software in general, your current needs, and your goals for the future."? Certainly, committing to a monthly fee of any kind should"?be done only after careful consideration and research."? But the service provided by Top Producer is quite a lot for the money."? In fact, the range of functions, support, and ongoing development"?provided are arguably more extensive than any other Real Estate specific CRM tool."? Is it perfect"?? No, but neither is any other tool out there."? With regards to 'getting your data returned', try calling Quickbooks and telling them you want to switch to MS Money, and you want"?THEM to transfer all your data for you, for free."? It will not happen, and they make one heck of a lot more money than does Top Producer."? It is not difficult to export data from Top Producer. The problem is that most Real Estate agents are just not very tech-savvy in basic database manipulation."? That is not the fault of the provider."? The tool is there to export about"?250 fields, including property information."?While it is not possible to export things like 'History'; ie: e-mails stored with the contacts, and letters sent, it is not possible to"?transfer that lind of information with any other program of which I am aware either.

They seem to plan to make it hard to stop paying them every month. The whole system is a money making proposition and you will pay and pay and pay some more.

"The whole system is a money making proposition..." Sounds like what people say about real estate agents, and we get angry when they feel we get paid too much.

After many years of trying to use Top Producer 6i and then 7i I dropped the programs"? this week.

It's ironic that the 4 posts above this one were about spending money and a significant amount of time to learn MS Office."? How many of us have spent literally many hundreds of hours USING, and thereby learning, Outlook and MS Word, and getting a little bit bit better, and learning a little more all the time."? We accept as a matter of course that we need to learn it, and we spend the time to do so."? How long have we spent playing with, and learning MS Publisher and Power Point, Excel, etc."? MS Office is a "Suite" that"?is incredibly robust, and takes a great deal of time to learn."? The sophisticated CRM tools that we use are also "Suites"."? Top Producer is a powerful and extensive program which by definition makes it time consuming to learn."? So"?are Agent Office, and most of the other full featured CRM tools out there."? The majority of people buying them are not willing to spend the time and money to learn how to use them.'This is not the fault of the provider."? When I bought Quickbooks, I paid someone to teach me how to use it, and then invested the time necessary to learn it."? That's what it takes."? I ALWAYS advise people NOT to buy these programs unless they are willing to invest the time necessary to benefit from the money investment."? I advise that people commit to one hour a day, 5 days a week, FIRST thing in the morning, before your day gets cranked up, for at"?LEAST 2 to 4 weeks, depending upon the person's aptitude for software. That should get you a healthy start."? Then you need to continue using it regularly, and you will continue to learn more and more of it's uses."? Is that unreasonable? No."?Difficult - yes."? But not impossible if you make a commitment and stick with it. I was an agent doing 40 some sides a year. I had the same problem with making the time as anybody would, but I did. It's not a matter of 'getting the time', it's a matter of 'making the time'.

Before I cancelled I did manage, with the help of an expert, to download my database to Outlook. Because Top Producer"?flatly refuses to turn loose of your calendar and other information in an easy manner, I sat at my computer for hours and printed my entire Top Producer detailed information contact list. I will have to enter many items"?I want to keep manually into my Outlook program. I also printed every month of every year of my calendar for the last 4 years. Even then the Top Producer system did not give me all the meetings and appointments"?on the sheets I could"?print.

Top Producer does not 'flatly refuse' to release your calendar data.'They are"?simply not capable of exporting it."? Why should they be"""Because, even if"?they were,"?of the nine CRM tools with which I am affiliated, none of them would be capable of importing it, including"?Outlook."? Calendar data is almost always unique to that particular program.

I wish I had never heard of Top Producer. I feel the money was a tremendous waste -- not to mention the years I have struggled to learn to use their"?programs.

If you have a team of agents and you employ a fulltime computer whiz who can figure out the Top Producer systems, maybe it will be worth it for you. But if your whiz quits, I'll bet you will be out of business until you can find and educate a replacement. There are many other programs that will do as good a job for a lot less money and a lot less trouble."? Buying Top Producer was probably"?the most expensive mistake I ever made.

There are not many good programs that do as much as it does for a lot less money, that continue to develop as much as TP does."? That is simply not true."? It does not take a team or a full time computer whiz to learn it."? It takes a commitment of time."? That said, some people are just simply not capable of grasping a program as powerful as Top Producer or Agent Office, or others, regardless of how much time they invest."? Some people, no matter how hard they try, can not grasp geometry or algebra."? They're not stupid. Those same people may be doing 50 or 100 transaction a year.'The inability to grasp computer software is something that is hardwired into us."? Some get it."? Some don't."? I have worked with"?thousands of agents, and some are better off hiring someone to do it for them, or using something that is far more basic, and therefore easier to learn. Ones inability to learn, or unwillingness to commit to learn,"?is not the fault of the provider.' The sooner one stops blaming the providers for the time it takes to learn the tools, and"?invests the time to learn them, the sooner one will be able to benefit from their investment.
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I regret that your experience occurred. Whenever I personally either hear/see/test a "better way" to do anything in the software field, I remember the "vapor-ware" days of the late 1970s and virtually of the 1980s. I look to see who buys the company, who runs it and what their attitude is towards 'open data base' and the eventual transfer of data to competing software packages. The maxim, "King like people, people like King" may be restated, "Program like Company's BOD, Company's BOD like program." Clearly, some Boards of Directors see a proprietary, closed attitude towards data base transfer of data as one key way to protect their product/checkbook. You get the point. It would be like the real estate industry electing to adopt a non-cooperative approach to brokerage. I am so sorry that this took you and so for so long but I am so glad that you shared this experience so that the newbies to the industry to repeat that path of expensive data lockup.
Active Agent for Outlook from Sonoma Enterprises does just about everything a real estate agent needs, and since it is an extension of Outlook, it can be learned fairly quickly. Active Agent is also a one time fee instead of monthly charges. I abandoned TP shortly after 7i came out and haven't looked back.

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